Life is a busy balancing act. With endless expectations — our own and everyone else’s — it feels like we're always trying to keep a dozen plates spinning at once. And as much as we complain, boast about our multitasking superpowers, or list it as a "skill" on our résumés, the truth is, multitasking is wearing us out. So, today, we're giving a single task the spotlight. Sure, the world isn't exactly designed for single-tasking, but hey, we've got to start somewhere, right? In this edition, we’ll also cover fresh music releases, the fine art of trusting yourself, and whether or not you should pay attention to those voices in your head (the friendly ones, anyway).

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Today, work challenges feel particularly front and center. It leads perfectly into an intriguing question: what if you woke up one day to find you were “generationally taken care of” rich? How would you spend your days? Would there be a phase where you did absolutely nothing? And could you truly step away from the drive for external validation? Let’s dive into the possibilities and explore what life might look like if we became wildly, ridiculously wealthy.

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So, my brother recently visited a friend who's off-grid homesteading in the wilds of Alaska, and that's where he stumbled across the curious term 'Law-ptional.' Turns out, when you're living in the middle of nowhere, some laws and rules become... well, more like suggestions! It got me thinking—what rules in our own lives have become 'law-ptional'? Do you always park by the book? Cross the street only at crosswalks? Or maybe you've mastered the art of loophole-hunting? We also explore the WNBA expansion, anyone? Why is fantasy football so addicting? And, honestly, can someone explain what makes fun-sized candy bars... fun?

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Today, we explore the uncanny parallels between the film Wag the Dog and the current political climate. Along the way, we discuss how the term 'playing politics' often fosters unnecessary people-pleasing. We also dive into the fading presence of cultural rites of passage, share thoughts on aging with grace, and highlight our favorite headline of the week: 'Women Who Don’t Wear Makeup Are Psychopaths.' We always suspected Kinzie might be one, but we never considered her makeup-free face as the cause! Finally, we dissect some unsettling lyrics from surprisingly well-known songs that are a bit too recent for comfort.

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Summer in the PNW is nothing short of spectacular, so it's been a minute since the ZNZBT crew gathered for a recording. But we’re wasting no time diving right back into the random conversations and topics that keep our ADHD brains buzzing. We catch up on Kinzie's travels to Italy and Vegas and Robin's to New York. Robin finally realizes that he may be a curmudgeon, but is this really news to anyone? Go grab a gelato, crack open a 40oz Hard Seltzer (optional), and get ready to chat about Jeff Goldblum's new show and the eerie possibility that the entertainment we consume may be seeping into our real lives. Spooky stuff!

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We race through life at such a breakneck speed that we hardly notice time passing, much less the changing of seasons or the years slipping away. From fleeting trends to the whirlwind of fast fashion, it feels like no one truly wants to keep up with the relentless pace we've set, yet we struggle to maintain the facade of enjoyment. Slowing down might be more challenging than we imagine. We're not just moving quickly; we've convinced ourselves that this is how life must be, with no end in sight. But has slowing down become a luxury only a few can afford? Can we find a way to let humanity savor the free time that our technologies could grant us, or will we continue to focus on turning people into ever more efficient workers? I cast my vote for the former.

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We’re all human by nature, but have you ever paused to consider what it truly means to be human? Imagine having to consciously think about things you do instinctively—walking, breathing, reaching for an object. It’s like the intriguing question making the rounds: how do you refer to yourself in your thoughts? Are you an "I," a "You," or a "We" In this conversation, we delve into the psychological significance of small actions, like returning your shopping cart, and explore just how much of a beast yacht rock musician Christopher Cross really is. And then, we tackle the big questions, like if reincarnation were real, would you want to come back? Nothing but the good stuff today.

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We’re surrounded by signs and symbols every day. Often, we accept them at face value, but what if there's a hidden, possibly harmful, meaning beneath them? Today’s discussion springs from a controversial "No U-Turn" sign in California. The more we dig behind the surface, the more disturbing truths seem to emerge. This might explain why the concept of the Heyoka keeps surfacing—someone needs to hold up a mirror to the madness we've normalized. Join us as we explore whether we’ve got any more eff's to give, how to avoid getting 5150'd, and contemplate the timeless question: if Jack helped you on a horse… you know the rest. Oh, and by the way, Betty For is awesome!

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In this episode, we dive into a phrase that’s haunted us for years: "You'll understand it when you get older." It was maddening, but recently, I finally got it—thanks to The Doobie Brothers. I now appreciate the key changes, the tempo shifts, and the incredible musicianship of their music. So, what else are we finally ready to understand with age? Join us as we explore generational gripes, like the nostalgic longing for "simpler times." Were they really simpler, or do we just miss our younger days? Plus, we’ll unpack why service industries are shifting to tip pooling, our thoughts on big industries breaking down, and our hopes for giving our kids what we didn't have. Tune in for a journey through the wisdom of age and the changing times!

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You might find it increasingly difficult to accommodate people with differing opinions. Today, we ask ourselves tough questions: Should I stay silent or take the risk of voicing my thoughts? Although balance is a vital aspect of life, it's often easier said than done. Opportunities for imbalance and triggers abound. Finding a balance that makes you feel good about your life is crucial for your personal happiness. But let’s not forget to bring back jump humping and indulge in lengthy discussions about Lifetime movies.

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How can one of the most creative and promising generations of our time be tied to the lamest catch phrases? Well, let's go...with this episode. Today we talk about the riveting Kidz Bop version of the Kendrick and Drake beef, which may be the only way I the associate with a beef again. But we also chat about the struggle of having a conversation where someone is trying to convince you that you're thinking is wrong and their's is correct. And then we somehow stumble into a conversation about sex rooms. I mean, we love having sex, but do you really need a room dedicated to just sex? Not judging, just asking for a friend. So, remember to smell you house when you come home from vacation, put on some Bobby Womack and lets go!! (insert irony here)

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Now I know that I can't know everything, but as an adult, I still get tickled when I learn something new about life. So imagine my surprise, and potentially yours, as we learn about "jump humping." And on a serious note, are we really in a place where fast food chains are sponsoring national parks? We still don't have flying cars, work and joy are typically on 2 very different ends of the spectrum and I don't know what we're yelling about! Take a deep breath. You're ok. We're going to take this one day at a time.

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As I've gotten older, finding ways to disconnect and slow down has become increasingly important, especially in an era where staying connected is easier than ever. Recently, I discovered Darkness Retreats and spent 5 days in complete darkness to explore this unique form of unplugging. In today's episode, we'll delve into that transformative experience. We also discuss where we draw the line when it comes to supporting businesses based on their affiliations. Plus, did you know that Kinzie has a fascinating magic wand collection? There's so much to cover in this episode!

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Man, we are running the gamut today on tangents. After sharing stories of our misguided youths, we have a good discussion around meditation. From different ways to approach meditation, to dealing with meditation injuries, which sounds counter intuitive. But here we are. We talk a bit about growing up around racism and ignorance around equality, but we also wax poetic about our preference in soft or strong toilet paper. So, today we bring you the science of fries, the problems with Trader Joe's parking lots and a funny story about Marion Berry.

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In this conversation, we attempt to explore the unexpected lessons hidden in life's randomness and glean the profound insights gained from seemingly trivial experiences. And we also bring light to the absurdity of mattress commercials in Texas, uncovering the curious quirks of regional advertising. If you don't know, check out Mattress Mack! We chat about a recent medicine journey I took and some of the integrative moments I took from that experience. And stick around for an intriguing tidbit about Joni Mitchell that you will probably want to verify for yourself, but it's an interesting journey.

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Join us for a thought-provoking journey as we delve into the fabric of our human experience. In today's episode, we ponder the notion of whether there's a malevolent force orchestrating our lives or if we're simply crafting meaning from the chaos. As humans, we're wired to weave narratives, finding significance even in the seemingly mundane. Ever heard of the Church of the Latter-Day Dude? It emerged from the cult classic film "The Big Lebowski," but did the Coen brothers anticipate its creation? And what about individuals like Rick Rubin, encouraging us to tap into our creative depths? But is creativity solely reserved for the privileged few or accessible to all, even those struggling to make ends meet? We'll contemplate embracing our present circumstances, even if they diverge drastically from our past expectations. Plus, a curious dive into the enigmatic "Running Scared" from Paul Walker's repertoire. So buckle up as we navigate why Eddie Vedder might just be a more pleasant guest than Gary Payton.

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Topics come and go, but I love maneuvering through a seemingly nonsensical, tangential conversation. Join us as we navigate through seemingly nonsensical conversations that somehow always find their way back home. In today's episode, we tackle the ever-relatable topic of travel frustrations and share our savvy strategies for overcoming them. Ever wondered about the awkwardness of celebrity obsession or the joys (and pitfalls) of teaching life lessons to kids? We've got you covered. And don't miss our Zen moments of the week, because sometimes, it's the detours in life that lead to the most profound discoveries. Tune in as we turn tangents into pure gold.

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Today we are digging into the complexities of being nice while avoiding the pitfalls of people-pleasing. We'll explore impactful phrases like "being in trouble" and question who we're truly accountable to. Additionally, we'll dissect the notion of "confidential contracts" and how they silently erode relationships. But fear not, it's not all serious! We'll also weave a narrative connecting Steve Buscemi through iconic films like Billy Madison, ConAir, and The Big Lebowski, sharing awkward encounters along the way that probably needed to happen. So, come along as we navigate the delicate balance of kindness without becoming doormats, all while leaving ample time for indulging in our favorite Nick Cage movies.

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Pranks have been a very active part of our lives. Sometimes whether we want it to be or not. The 3 of us had the pleasure of working together for a number of years, which involved many pranks and now our bonded friendship. Today we share stories of the pranks that we have been a part of. Whether on the pranking side, or the receiving side, as long as no one gets hurt, I always appreciate being involved. Sometimes we need to see how seriously we are taking ourselves. So join us today and find out why Kinzie is a Queen of pranks, but may rat on you if the pressure is on.
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Here at Zen and Not Zen, it's no surprise that we love our music. In today's episode, we're diving into the transformative journey of artists and how their evolution impacts our connection to their work. Inspired by Andre 3000's innovative flute album, we explore the question: do we grow alongside our favorite artists as they push boundaries in their craft? Witnessing artists evolve is a beautiful experience, but are we willing or even eager to evolve with them? Take the Black Eyed Peas, for instance; many adored their music before Fergie joined, yet their success soared after her addition. Metallica faced criticism upon releasing the Black Album, but it marked a pivotal turn in their trajectory. Then there's Tom DeLonge from Blink 182, who ventured into founding a company that delves into monitoring extraterrestrial activity for the government—a remarkable departure from his musical roots. Join us as we delve into these musical metamorphoses and ponder if and how we embrace change alongside our favorite artists. Oh, and while we're at it, we'll also share some tips on achieving the perfect toast using the golden ratio for toasters: 1-4-2-3.
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This episode is a personal favorite of mine. In our haphazard attempt to talk about 2023 and the impact it had on us, we end up talking about everything but 2023. We cover the influence that the band Blues Traveler had on us. How all spiritual and religious practices really just want us to be good people, when you boil it down. And how upside down pineapples can mean that you're into swinging. You know, normal ZNZBT BS. But my personal highlight is witnessing Kinzie's on air existential crisis and the hilarity that ensues. So come with us as we kinda talk about 2023, but also weird stories about eye contacts.
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What random jobs have you had? But more importantly, what random skills have the jobs you've had taught you? From splicing movies together to video game coin mech repairs, we may not know when this random knowledge will come in handy, until you need it. But more than that, what interesting practices do you have, or have you seen someone else do? We talk about ascetic Yogic practices like flossing your nose and de-anchoring your tongue to find enlightenment. There are many ways to approach life and the knowledge you gain from these approaches may not make sense until it does. So join us today as we find out what food made Kinzie cheat on her vegan diet, whether Robin prefers skydiving or bungie jumping and why we are smitten with a young Angela Lansbury. It's always an interesting ride.
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Why do we love villains so much? Is it that we empathize with them in some way? Maybe they're acting in a way that you wish you could sometimes. Or maybe we just love to see what chaos would look like, but from the safety of our own managed mayhem. Whatever your reason, we all seem to have some that we look to, so today we are talking about ours. We explore what we consider to be good villain loving qualities, but also how Wesley Snipes character in Blade influenced Dennis Rodman to start dying his hair. Cohesive randomness is how we roll. Join us as we praise Alan Rickman and question why Dolf Lundgren has a seemingly more successful real estate career, than he did playing the bad guy in the 80's.
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Growing up in organized sports, our coaches used to cup check us constantly. Whether they were trying to see if we were in uniform, or it was some sadistic ritual, the jury is still out. But it seems that this has continued and is now going viral. So why do much of the "affectionate" rituals that men in the west observe seem to have undertones of a desperation to touch and be touched? Are we so afraid to show any type of affection that we need to add an overtone of pain to it? I don't remember hearing stories of band teachers cup checking band members with an Obo. Join us today as we tangent about strange male rituals, regional weed shops and the rest of the randomness that weaves this conversation together.
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We at Zen and Not Zen love our entertainment! And we deeply enjoy adult cartoons. So today, we are spending some time talking about adult cartoons and cartoons that have adult overtones. We have the classics like The Simpsons, Family Guy & South Park, but what are your go to's? We also tackle the hard hitting topics like Chuck's vs Vans, Canadian musicians and whether or not the Ernest movies hold up. So tune in to find out if Robin actually read "Jeremy Thatcher, Dragon Hatcher," or if he just read the Cliff's Notes.
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Burning man 2023 was met with many unexpected challenges. In todays tangent, we talk about this unintended social experiment and how what may be perceived as going wrong, may actually be the signs of something right. Most of us have been a part of something that may have started small and intimate; a cult classic movie, a music group or sub-genre, but when it gained popularity we turned away from it, toting that it, or they "sold out." Jimmy Buffet may be that for some of you, or perhaps you never wanted a "Cheeseburger in Paradise?" Join us as we make our way through my dicey family history, crypto currency and tangents galore.
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Anne Lamott dropped this gem: "Expectations are resentments waiting to happen." Today, we are chatting about all the wild things we anticipate and the boxes we put ourselves, others, and life in. But hey, can we just take a moment and marvel at the fact that aliens are being talked about openly by our governing officials now? I was half-expecting a full-blown extraterrestrial parade! But nope, just another day in the intergalactic news cycle. So, let's do a little expectation exorcism, shall we? Release your expectations and laugh with us for the next hour.
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Today we embark on an amusing journey as we tackle the epic battle of FOMO (Fear Of Missing Out) versus JOMO (Joy Of Missing Out). Ever felt like you're trapped in a social obligation vortex? Join Robin, Kinzie and I as we explore the art of saying "no" without a hint of guilt. Plus, we'll uncover the magical powers of a good night's sleep in a world that thinks hustle is a form of cardio. We'll also be sharing our most epic JOMO moments - those times when missing out was just the ticket to pure bliss. Join us for a whimsical, guilt-free adventure in the world of JOMO!
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As you may know by now, we have "topics" that we typically move towards in our conversations. Sometimes we get there, sometimes we don't. Today is one of those days that we just couldn't really get to the topic. But that's ok! We'll get to that topic one of these days. So today, we talk about Pride week and how to keep showing up as an ally. How Australia, as a country, will kill you if you're not paying attention. I learn what a "haboob" is, and we review 2 very interesting movies, "Caligula" and "Pink Flamingo." Life is pretty non-linear and unexpected at times, so why can't our conversations.
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Please humor me as I try to work out this idea in my head, as we conversate about it on the air. Life is funny, whether it's "meant" to be or not. And sometimes we observe life in all of its hilarity, again, whether it's intended to be or not. With all of that being said. We have a birthing doula, who births babies into the world. We have death doulas, who assist souls out of this world. So can we start calling those who witness life and birth it into comedy a joke doula. Your are literally birthing comedy into this world, through the observation of life. It's not a new idea, by any means. I mean, Larry David created 2 successful tv series out of this idea, but I like this name a little bit better. Life is funny. And most of us take ourselves too seriously and may be missing out on some good observable comedy. Come with us on this journey of us recalling situational humor throughout our lives. That without having been witnessed, would not have brought the joy you are about to hear.
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Beauty is a very subjective observation, and also one of my favorite expressions from the Canadian slang. But sometimes we tend to find beauty in some not so beautiful moments. Maybe it's more of an esoteric beauty at that point. Like the beauty in climbing back up from rock bottom, or the beauty in saying goodbye to a loved one. And there are also the dangerous and unattainable beauty, like the beauty standards that the world has put us. So, with the many aspects and ways to approach beauty, what does it mean to you? There is a saying that "beauty breeds discontent". We can be surrounded by beauty, but do we take it for granted? Do you remember how beautiful Alanis Morsiettes' Jagged Little Pill album was? Dave Coulier does, but maybe he would like to forget. Also, join us as we lovingly say goodbye to Kinzie's dog, Jeff.
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Today, we totally went off topic, (yes, there are topics) and stumbled our way into a tangent about humanity. There is a lot happening in the world right now. We started off talking about gourmet fast food and Walmart shenanigans, harmless enough. But when we brought up the new golf league, LIV, it opened the door to move the conversation toward humanity. We could have easily talked about the Gin Blossoms for an hour, and still may at some point. But for today, we bring you Kinzie's desire to have a line of Bravo House Wife branded Funco toys and a talk about humanity.
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Today was an important day. We found out the Kinzie had a "crush" on Kevin James, that none of us are fans of padded toilet seats and that most of the food we grew up on and still sometimes eat is banned in other countries. I understand that we all have different standards and practices, but can't we find a better substitute than yellow #5? Shit, we've been talking about it's testicle shrinking side effects since the 80's. Can we not do without that specific flavor in our Mountain Dew? The list of food is heartbreaking to our younger selves and very surprising. There are a lot of "reliable" name brands and common food safety practices that listed here. How many of these items are in your kitchen? Do all dogs go to Heaven? The answer is D....all of the above.
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We live in an interesting age where technology is being developed at a rapid pace and inventions seem to be flooding the world. But what are some of the inventions that meant the most to humanity, in a good way and a bad way. Today, we are taking a look at some of the most influential inventions and some of the most detrimental inventions we have seen so far. Maybe the best way to start this conversation off is with me finding out about a little movie called Cocaine Bear! What rock was I living under? Moving onto our subject matter, we explore chat GBT and the havoc it's reeking on college professors. Ring cams seem to be fun, but who has the rights to what your camera is recoding? The idea of the shiny new toy syndrome comes up a bit today. Sometimes we need to find all of the ways to use the toy incorrectly before we can discover the beneficial use of it. What invention has helped you, or hurt you the most? Let's find out. ~Enjoy the Journey~

Today we take a look at dive into regret. Regret is a doorway to depression, shame and the root cause for many misspelled tattoos..."No Regerts". But how does regret land with you in your emotional body.  It could be said that regret is a useless emotion, but maybe we just aren't ready to hear the message of what regret is trying to tell us. We can find regret in the biggest of decisions, but also in the menial ones, like getting the fish instead of the steak at your friends wedding.  And then we start "shoulding" all over ourselves.  I should have done this.  I can't believe I did that.  It's a vicious cycle that we continuously put ourselves through and to gain what?  What could have been?  How do you know it's better that what you did? Well, here are 3 humans, having an open and honest conversation about regret.
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The perception of truth has been very top of mind recently.  Can I have a truth that's separate than your truth, and vice versa? The short answer is yes, but is that counter intuitive to the idea of what a truth is? Well, that's what we are diving into today. That and the new understanding that actress Vira Farmiga loves  heavy metal music!  But with all of these perceived truths, how do we draw a line, or should we?  And if you "see" a perceived truth in another, but that truth may hurt them, should you use you truth as a sword? There is a delicate balance here. But to keep things light, we talk about our favorite new hip hop albums and how people with color blindness have a truth that we'll never know.  If we can begin to lean into the understanding that someone has a differing truth than our own, maybe we can find a way to respectfully disagree with people again.  
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Defining your personal freedom may seem counterintuitive, but too much freedom an be overwhelming.  Today on ZNZBT we talk about what state of being can feel like for each of us. This is a personally defined term.  My freedom may look completely different than yours.  And there's beauty in that.  But there's also beauty in hover boards, the movie "Blank Check" and a litany of other random topics that weave themselves into this conversation.  This isn't a talk about nation freedom, or big scale freedom.  This is a talk on what our personal freedom look and feels like.  It is not lost on us that you are spending part of your freedom, choosing to listen to us.  And we appreciate that 
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In our year end review, we talk about our highs and lows, the lessons we learned and the shenanigans we got ourselves into.  We're not big on New Years resolutions here at ZNZBT, but we talk about what some of the focus' we will have for the upcoming year and how the year we just passed has helped up prepare for it.  From plant medicine journeys to concerts we've seen, trips we've taken to the hardships of change.  Join us as we recap our year.
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The passing of Naomi Judd, an artist and human being that meant a lot to Kinzie, was what spurred the topic for this episode. Today, we talk about the famous people who passed in 2022. Some of them we knew, but a lot we did not. I found it comforting to know that Coolio passed the day after my mom.  So to think my mom and Coolio are on a fantastic voyage somewhere is pretty dope to me. But other things happen as well.  I help Kinzie unpack her moving experience at the recent Judds concert and we wager bets on which movie the late Paul Sorvino is the most proud of.
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I know we are a little bit late for a daylight savings time episode, but here you go! I understand why our country initially instated DST, but why is this still a practice? At least now with the normality of smartphones and smart devices, most of our clocks change themselves and we have learned to adjust, but what about our pets?  My dog is fed dinner at 5pm every night, but once DST rolls around, she starts stalking me starting at 4pm and looking at me like I'm the A-hole. And what would be an episode of ZNZBT without our fair share of tangents. We chat about Bobcats, how to smoke weed in a hotel room without getting caught and the wackiness of time zones. Also, what is your favorite Ben & Jerry's flavor ice cream?  All this and more
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We always sit down with an idea of what we want to talk about here on ZNZBT, but sometimes we just don't get to it.  In this episode, we tried 2 or 3 times to work our way back to the subject, but it just didn't work.  So today, we bring you another tangent, in its truest form.  We talk about Portland's food scene and how we feel that Voodoo Donuts is a bit overrated. But how can you take our word for it, once you find out where K Shaw and I like to enjoy our donuts. So get ready for a comedy filled conversation about some random things in our lives that make us smile.

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The lovely Kinzie Shaw is leading the conversation in this episode. Since Kinzie is our self proclaimed "house lesbian", she is filling us in on some funny lesbianisms.  We at ZNZBT know it’s not the job of marginalized communities to educate us on their experience but in this episode Kinzie volunteered to educate us for one episode on some things about her experience. (She acknowledges she doesn’t speak for the lesbian community as a whole but shares some things that have been true for her.)
This is one of the more insightful and comedic conversations I've been a part of in a while.  We learn about Uhaul lesbians, eyebrow slits and oat milk iced coffee.  But we also explore the Stonewall Riots and how they served as a catalyst for the gay rights movement. So have a listen and find out how a scene from The Mummy 2 became a cultural staple and if the carabiner is taking the place of cargo shorts.

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What fears do you live with?  Combined, we are afraid of heights, the ocean, spiders and Mark Wahlberg's character in the move "Fear".  But why are we afraid of these things?  Today, we are talking about fear and how to manage it.  We discuss mid-evil scare tactics to help induce fear to heal the body and mind and how to maintain your internal happiness when triggered by your fears or by life in general.  But not to worry, we also talk about how Lucy Lawless is the Lesbian Buddha.  There's something in here for everyone today.  I hope you enjoy the conversation.  And stay tuned to the end, when we stumble upon the topic for our next show.
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Have you ever loved a movie so much, but when your friends watch the same movie they thought you were an idiot?  Well, that's our topic today.  From My Father the Hero to UHF; and Captive, where John Stamos plays the bad guy.  We talk about all of the movies that, for some reason, we love.  We tackle sequels that we feel are better than the original and movies that are so bad, you just have to see them.  Grab your popcorn and your opinions and join us on this cinematic quest.
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We used to be able to rattle off phone numbers with ease, know and understand directions in a stronger way or even remember bits of obscure information. Now, we have digital platforms in our pockets that remember for us and give us the information we need.   Today we are talking about 2 newer "disorders" that effect us due to the time of life that we live in and the technology that is readily used.  Digital Amnesia is a psychological phenomenon that represents people's tendency to forget information that is stored in a digitally accessible manner, such as on their computer or smartphone.  The Google Effect is the tendency to forget information that is readily available through search engines like Google.  Do you miss what you used to be able to remember, or do you appreciate having tools like Wikipedia, Urban Dictionary & Reddit to add flair to your knowledge base?  Let's pool the "experts" and find out.

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I'm not sure if you've heard or not.  And if you haven't heard, I hate to be the one who tells you.  But, the beloved Choco Taco is being discontinued.  This is a big blow to my childhood innocence and nostalgia.  But all things come to an end sooner or later.  Why not delicious snacky treats too?  Well, today in honor of the Choco Taco, we are sharing why we love this treat so much.  We also dive into which had the best versions of the CT, ice cream truck, gas station or grocery store.  But besides that, what else has gone away that we once loved.  It can be a snack, a unique experience or a TV show. Wait until we get to the opposite of this; what have you seen that you can't unsee?  Come and take a nostalgic ride with us to the land of Choco Tacos.

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 Music is very impactful in our lives, whether we realize it or not.  It can help us up regulate our energy for a workout or game, but also help us calm our nerves and relax.  Today we are taking a look at the music that impacted us and how that impact was felt.  We explore the concept that a lot of us will decide our music taste at a young age and for the most part won't deviate from that as we get older.  We dive into obscure music that we listen to and that seemingly no one else would understand.  DJ Screw and chanting is that for me.  Music is a big part of our lives.  Whether we are choosing our own soundtrack or we are listening to the one the world has gifted us, we are exposed to music constantly.  Have you thought about how it impacts you?

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We've probably all eaten at one, or even worked at one. Today, we talk about the different types of chain restaurants.  From traditional to 24 hour, fast food to fine dining we explore our opinions about chain restaurants.  And why I have a desire to watch Western movies, but still haven't yet.  These are the things that keep us up at night. Due to our tangential nature, we stumble upon the possibility that Robin may have decided on his adult diet when he was a kid.  Apparently eating Dunkaroos and drinking sugar sodas is frowned upon as an adult.  Who knew?  Also, don't worry, Mark Hamill is not dead, I just misspoke.
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One was a propaganda film from 1936 designed to demonize cannabis and the other is the current reality for states with legalized cannabis. Today we are talking about the cultural shift that cannabis is in the midst of and what Betty Ford and Annies Veggie Lasagna have to do with it. Truly, they have nothing inherently in common, but if you give me long enough, I can string enough commonalities together to make it work. We take a look at positive situations like Colorado, one of the first states to legalize cannabis, and how they made so much money in cannabis taxes in their first year that they voted to give the extra money to schools and repairing roadways.  But we also look at some of the pitfalls the industry has come up against.  Mainly that since cannabis is not federally legal, credit card companies won't back them, forcing these shops to accept cash only and making them targets for robberies.  But this is normal with anything new.  We are part of the cumbersome process of un-demonizing nature and rewriting the story of what we accepts as medicines. Challenge accepted.

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Getting a "proper" amount of sleep had never seemed as important as it did once I hit my 40's. Sleeping intoxicated, going to bed at 3am and waking up at 7am or sometimes staying up all night were common practices. Once we start to make positive changes in our lives, it's hard to imagine how we survived for so long with such toxic habits.  So today we are talking about what adequate sleep is for us, as well as what other healthy habits we had to change or initiate to help us be the most functional humans we can be. So whether you grew up smashing Little Debbie snacks like they were the last morsels of food on the planet, or you knew it was time to go to bed when you heard the M.A.S.H. theme song come on, we all probably had to, or have to, do a little bit of reparenting on our end.  

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Do you prefer physical books or e-books?  What book would you rather have on display in your house, the Bible or The Never Ending Story? To be honest, up until about 10 years ago, I wouldn't have been able to answer those questions.  Maybe it's my older years that have given me the patience to want to read, but either way, I'm now an avid bibliophile.  Today, we talk about books, authors, genres, books vs movies and for the most part, we stay on topic.  Go figure.

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Jobs can be fun, boring, mundane, etc, but also necessary.  Kinda like Nick Cage, but I digress.  At this point in our human existence, our societies are set up to push us towards having a job and maybe wanting a career.  But what kind of job suits you?  Are there things you definitely look for, but also things that you would never want to do, even if you get paid for it?   Today we talk about what our favorite jobs would be, maybe a blunt roller for Snoop Dog; but also what our most hated jobs would be, like the QA tester for the Tea Cup ride at Disney Land.  Whatever we choose to do for work, let's hope that it brings us some kind of joy or satisfaction.  But if you can't find that with the job you have, does the work you do allow you to find joy and satisfaction in your personal life?  Also, who put the word "felching" in the urban dictionary?  These answers and more on this weeks episode.
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How has death affected you? Are you afraid of death? Do you feel prepared? Death is one of the few inevitable things that is going to happen to us and the people around us. Some cultures seem to embrace death, while others seem to try to create every opportunity to skirt it. Today we are taking a comedic look at death and all of the aspects that in encompasses. What to do with your body after you pass, whether or not you would like to prolong your human experience like trans-humanism or have a Viking funeral. Are God and Santa Claus related? Is cupid similar to Slimer? These answers and more on this episode!

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What does Ernest P Worrell and slip and slide have in common? Seemingly nothing, except the nostalgia that they invoke. Todays conversation is based around the idea of "things not being the same as we remembered them." But to be fair, most of my memories of "what was" are muddled by emotions and misremembered information. But with that idea in mind, what do you remember from your childhood that is different now? Is is actually difference, or is it perceived? Truthfully, I have a hard time remembering what happened an hour ago. Let's see if there is any accuracy in our reminiscing. 

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Now, we aren't the biggest fans of country music, but there is a nostalgia wrapped up in it for us. Today we are exploring our emotions about country music and why we don't listen to it now. Although we don't currently listen to it, all 3 of us seem to have a slight affinity to country music from the 90's; Reba, George Strait, Garth Brooks etc. The challenge to our listeners is, if you have current country music that you think we would resonate with, please send it our way.
 
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As Robin's brother once said, and now I love to quote, "life is the longest thing you'll ever do." And with that idea comes a lot of opportunities to get into and out of trouble. Today we are talking about some of the crazier situations that we got ourselves into and more or less out of. Now, we are not aggrandizing any of the situations we were in, or the substances we may have used. This is all in good fun.
 
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What would you do if things in the world went sideways? I mean, even more sideways than the last 2 years have been. In what wave of the zombie apocalypse would you be taken out in? Well, that would depend on whether they were leg draggin' zombies or the crazy sprinting zombies. Would you welcome an alien invasion? Or what if a meteor was going to crash into earth? I think we decided we would be part of the first wave club. How would you fare?

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Talking shit has become a pretty significant part of our society. From politicians slandering each other to win an election, to the military "breaking you down" to build you back up, seemingly every sporting event and even in familial dynamics, shit talking seems to have engrained itself into a somewhat normal way of communicating. There are even genera's of music, like battle rap, that are completely dedicated to talking shit. But as accepted as it's become, are we still aware of the danger and damage that this form of communication can cause. Today, we are diving in to our experiences and opinions of talking shit. It seems at times that shit talking is taking the place of actual affection and intimacy. Sure a smile and middle finger shown to your friend as you pass them in the hall can be somewhat funny and still get the point across of showing some affection. But is there so much discomfort in sharing your actual feelings that you need to pass them off as harsh, hoping that the other person gets the actual intent behind them? This is a big bag to unpack. 

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Your free time is yours to enjoy. Golfing, yoga, porn conventions, eating gummy Lifesavers, peanut butter and Vegemite. Clearly we find interesting things to do with our free time. What do you do with yours? Whatever you choose to do with your free time, the important message here is to actually have free time and to embrace it when you do. A lot of us have created so much busyness in our lives that we forget what free time is. If you've lost it, have you realized it yet? How are you going to get it back? Well, listening to this comedy laden podcast might be a good start.

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Your free time is yours to enjoy. Golfing, yoga, porn conventions, eating gummy Lifesavers, peanut butter and Vegemite. Clearly we find interesting things to do with our free time. What do you do with yours? Whatever you choose to do with your free time, the important message here is to actually have free time and to embrace it when you do. A lot of us have created so much busyness in our lives that we forget what free time is. If you've lost it, have you realized it yet? How are you going to get it back? Well, listening to this comedy laden podcast might be a good start.

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Universal Signs, Deja Vu, Synchronicity, God Wink, Law of Attraction or Luck. There are a lot of ways to look at todays topic. But it seems that no matter what your beliefs are, we all tend to experience some form of this.  Today, we are talking about our experiences with it and if, or why, we tie it back to a belief system.

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Today we are tackling a subject that I feel a lot of us deal with, whether we realize it or not. Today we talk about why we sometimes won't ask for help because we don't want to seem like we are being a burden. This is pretty deep. I think what a lot of this boils down to is that we don't want to ask for help. We all have our reasons when it comes to this, but when we can find the vulnerability to ask for help, we can release the feeling of being a burden and just be humans.

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Ever let your mind wonder towards conspiracy theories? I think we all have a conspiracy theory or 2 that we believe in, or maybe we just don't know enough about it to disprove it.  Today, we found an article from Popular Mechanics talking about some of the more widely known conspiracy theories out there. Although some of these may seem outlandish, I appreciate the thought process that goes into them. It really shows how much humans love a good story.

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A warm welcome back to the lovely Kinzie Shaw.  Today, in our Bro-Time edition we are talking about the movies and music that got us through the year.  From new releases to nostalgic throwbacks, main stream smashes to cult classics, we're talking about it all.  Apparently, I am the only on who hasn't seen Titanic and that seems to be a trigger for Robin.  But you know us, the addition of Kinzie only adds to our ability to tangent through the realms of idiocy.  And tangent we will.

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Today we are talking about what holidays mean to us.  I personally struggle with the materialistic nature of holidays, but also understand the familial traditions and love that is shared around these times as well.  Whether your holidays are "picture perfect" or mired with political arguments and religious disagreements, the holidays hold a special place in our hearts....or do they??

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Allow me to introduce the lovely and amazing Kinzie Shaw. Kinzie, a long time friend and hilarious human, will be joining us today and potentially future episodes.  In recognition of bringing our friend on, we are talking about making and maintaining adult friendships.  Sometimes we don't realize how important a good friend group is until we need them.  As we establish the hierarchy of age, Adam being the oldest, we move towards embracing your age and all that comes with it.  Humans are social creatures and need to be around other humans.  Find your community and learn to be vulnerable with them.  The first steps may be uncomfortable, but the best changes in life happen from a space of discomfort.

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This week on Zen & Not Zen, we had a topic that we wanted to talk about.  And we even mentioned it at the beginning of the episode.  But we tapped danced so far around it, that we couldn't even put it in the title.  So we give you a string of tangents in its truest form.  We start the episode in the middle of a spirited debate about nicotine and our current understandings of it as something harmful.  But could it be that we have a misconstrued relationship with it?  We tip toe around game theory for a bit and land in a great conversation about "participation trophies", where Robin takes the Zen approach.  I try the Not Zen approach, just for shits and giggles, only to find it sounding forced.  In the end, we maintain our current roles and tangent hard.

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This week on ZNZ we are talking about the idea of Blockbuster vs. Netflix.  Although there is a clear winner now, growing up during the time of Blockbuster, we had a lot of family traditions and rituals revolving around Blockbuster and that experience.  But nostalgia aside, now that Netflix and other streaming platforms have moved in and honed their approach, many of the functional arguments have gone by the wayside.  Although it's now "Netflix and Chill" instead of "Make it a Blockbuster Night," we can lament what once was, or embrace what now is.  And just imagine what will take the place of Netflix in the future!  Stay tuned towards the end, when Robin and I get into a spirited debate about the right to have your own opinions, even if someone else thinks it's an opinion not worth having.  Fun times!

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This week on Zen & Not Zen, we had a topic that we wanted to talk about.  And we even mentioned it at the beginning of the episode.  But we tapped danced so far around it, that we couldn't even put it in the title.  So we give you a string of tangents in its truest form.  We start the episode in the middle of a spirited debate about nicotine and our current understandings of it as something harmful.  But could it be that we have a misconstrued relationship with it?  We tip toe around game theory for a bit and land in a great conversation about "participation trophies", where Robin takes the Zen approach.  I try the Not Zen approach, just for shits and giggles, only to find it sounding forced.  In the end, we maintain our current roles and tangent hard.

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Ah yes, a subject near and dear to our hearts, jokes and shenanigans. We both grew up in households where fun and games were supported, so we've tried to embrace that in our older years.  I am personally a big fan of shenanigans at work and at home, and I feel it's an important practice.  Sometimes we take ourselves too seriously.  Tell a fart joke.  Play a prank.  Shoot a nerf gun.  Embrace your inner child and have some fun.

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So we're doing a thing we said we would never do....talk about religion.  We both have very different backgrounds with this subject.  Robin's household didn't have it and he never really looked for it.  My saint of a mother tried, but with 3 boys on her hip and the hokey pokey that is the Catholic church, it didn't last long.  We "try" not to offend while sharing our feelings and thoughts on religion, but we can't make everyone happy.  We aren't advocating it.  We aren't against it.  We're just talking about it.

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 Robin and I appreciate traveling for many reasons.  It gives us a new perspective on different cultures, takes us out of our current rituals and patters to open us up to new experiences and expands our shenanigan influence.  Todays tangent stays on task, for the most part, as we share stories of the places we've navigated, talk about some of the areas of the world we wish to travel soon and lose track of the conversation and talk about random other things.  Hence the "most part" comment. Get out there and see the world.  There are beautiful people and places that you have yet to discover.  And those experiences can change your life.

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One of the funner conversations I feel we've had in a while, which is saying a lot.  This episode is chock full of tangents, inappropriate stories and one of my favorite things, human interaction.  I find a lot of joy in showing love to humans in any way that I can.  So hi 5's, hugs and handshakes are right up my alley.
 
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We have a thought experiment today on ZNZ; what would you do if you didn't need money?  Would you be more creative?  Have more time for family and community?  Or go to an animal sanctuary and masterbate lamas?  These are the hard hitting topics we tap dance around for your listening pleasure.

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This week we are talking about one of my favorite topics, plant medicines.  Plant medicines have been in my life for a very long time, but I only started using them consciously within the past 10 years or so.  In this episode we will talk about our personal experiences with various types of plant meds from holy basil and turmeric to cannabis and psilocybin.  I think the point we want to get across is that there are responsible ways to use plant medicines, but as with all things, it is up to you to define responsible.  

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This week on Zen & Not Zen, we are chit chatting about exercise.  Both of us have tried different modalities of exercise over the years.  Some have stuck, others have not.  But have you heard us talk about waterbeds yet?  Because you will.  We also tangent to metric vs. standard, ?uestlove's memoir and other strategically placed random topics.  

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 Welcome back to ZNZ!  Today we chat about why I don't like The Beatles.  Now before we get ourselves worked up, I do understand the impact The Beatles made in the music industry and the culture of their time, but it's just not for me.  We tap dance through a few other "universally loved" bands that we may or may not be a fan of, but we did discover something special through our conversation today.  Apparently, if you mix all the Rainbow Sherbet flavors together, you unlock the next level of the universe!  Don't believe me, try it yourself.  If it doesn't work, you're clearly doing it wrong.

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F@(K Yeah!  Today we are talking about swear words.  We both swear a fair amount and have heard the stereotypes throughout the years, but fuck that!  A properly placed swear word can really drive a point home, or make a joke funnier or just be used as filler words.  We do use "like" and "um" way too much.  We venture around our uses of which words and why as well as which words we'll never use.  (The infamous "C" word).  So sit the fuck back and listen to what we love to do.  Talk shit about random shit.

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This week on Zen and Not Zen, we talk about the illusive work life balance.  This seems to be a topic that a lot of us are searching for and all have our own version of.  We tangent all over the place with this topic.  So much so, that we talk about attempting to make a yarn chart to see how we arrive to some of the tangents we land on, but that would probably look like a serial killers map.  We share our version of what work life balance would look like for us, if and or when we find it.  This is one of those subjects that is best defined by the person seeking it, but enjoyed by everyone by proxy once found.

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This weeks tangent is a viewer request from our buddy Brandon Youngblood, and hits home with both Robin and I.  Today we are talking about how we manage our friendships with people who do and don't have kids.  This can get a little tricky as we introduce little ones into the world.  I had kids when I was young and Robin is currently childless, so we each have our own perspectives on this.  But although Robin doesn't have kids, he, and the Wu Tang have something in common.  They are both for the kids.  But eff all that, we end up talking about Short Circuit and Short Circuit 2. 

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Aliens man!!  In this weeks tangent, we talk about aliens.  And oddly enough, I think this is the most we've ever stayed on topic...or at least topic adjacent?  We hit up most of the stereotypical alien things, but with our Zen and Not Zen twist on it.  We talk crop circles, abductions and even mating with aliens.  Robin shares his strong distaste for M. Night. Shyamalan and I talk about some of the ways the subject of aliens has made its way across my leanings over the years.  This is one of my favorite conversations yet. 

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Today on Zen and Not Zen, we talk about Regional Slang.  Robin is from the PNW, but I'm from the South.  So naturally, we speak a little differently, but that doesn't stop our chemistry!  In traditional fashion, we start off topic with cancel culture.  Hell, we may do an entire episode on this one day.  But for now, we are talking about German Vampires, how to not get caught doing dumb kid shit and conscious thought.  We do make our way to regional slang and some of our thoughts on them.  But at the end, listen close.  Robin starts to get real. 

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Welcome back to Zen and Not Zen.  This week we are tackling a subject that we have attempted to record before, but haven't felt right about it until now.  Today, we light heartedly talk about our Life After Drinking.  But of course, we start totally off topic, by Robin respectfully questioning the stones and crystals that I have on the table during our talk.  We weave in and out of tangents, as we typically do, and although we talk about it in a joking manner, we gave up drinking for very strong reasons.  Everyones journey with alcohol is different.  Here is ours. 

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Back at it again!  This time talking about cereal....but we take our time getting there.  We start off on one of the more mature notes of our podcast career, Robin "triple fine’d" me, when he realized the error of his comment.  From there we tangent to the Guinness Book of World Records or all places and talk about the guy with the crazy long finger nails.  Robin continues to brandish his maturity by daring me to edit/ censure him and then we finally get to cereal.  

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Welcome back!  Today's tangent is Sports!(?) (the ! is for Robin and the ? is for me.)  We kinda stay on topic today, even if we are talking about a bachelor party where Curling is the main attraction rather than some other devious act.  We cover my vast(?) experience with sports.  Oddly enough, I played a lot of sports growing up, they just didn't stick around.  Maybe some of the discipline.  But speaking of discipline, I found out that Robin was a black belt, until he was reintroduced into the green, if you catch my drift. (puff, puff, pass.)  Apparently, but a surprise to no one, I know very little about sports movies, and hey Larry, Robin admits to stealing your wake board. 

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In todays tangent, we talk about the myths surrounding marijuana and its usage.  Both of us being avid users of marijuana, we have heard a lot of these myths, but haven't had a chance to dive into them as adults, so here we go.  We start, off topic as usual, with a story about the differences between you, thee and thou.  Riveting, I know.  From there Robin relates his love of poetry to a combination of Lucky charms and Coco Puffs, we both agree that smoking anything over a long period of time can be hazardous to your lungs and how parents have terrible scare tactics.  But, in the long run we decide that cleaning toilets, while high on cannabis can be a zen like experience. 

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In todays episode, we are fulfilling a listeners request and chatting about cell phones.  With both of us being born in the 80's and having our influential years in the 90's, we saw, and lived through, the evolution of cell phones.  But we digress into the unconventional size of money and go a bit in depth on Bob Ross, which I ended up learning a bit about.  And we wrap it up with Robin making up stories about Zach Morris and a cell phone prop.
 
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In todays tangent we talk about cartoons!  Cartoons helped to raise us and, to be honest, I'm letting them help to raise my kids as well.  Where's the harm in that?  Well, we start off todays tangent by acknowledging that I have had a distaste for holidays in the past, but that I'm trying this year.  So, I made up a word, or so I thought, to help me to accept the holidays.  And that word is "holodious".  But of course, urban dictionary beat me to it.  Oh well.  From there we actually talk about cartoons for a bit.  But we digress soon.  We chat about Faye Rielisms, Robin rakes me over the coals for mistaking the Monkees for the Beatles and we question if anyone really remembers what Charlie Browns Christmas was really about.  We discover that Robin has a strong distaste for the Steve Miller Band and may have stumbled across a couple more topics to explore.  

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Todays tangent is a fun one for us, Genericized Tademarks.  Kleenex, velcro, ping pong, these are the things we call by specific brand names, but they generic names like facial tissue, hook and loop fastener and table tennis.  But we start with a new thing today, check ins; in which Robin shares his growing obsession with finding the perfect ice cream sandwich.  From there we digress to milk preferences, using bubble wrap to help with anxiety and I share a story about how I got in an altercation involving mace, with a guy named Mace.  We talk about how Robin had 3 lava lamps, the problems with dropping a deuce while wearing a onesie and Robin challenges Elon Musk!  It's fun for the whole family.  But not really the whole family.  Choose wisely...

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Ah, the good old "Thank You" wave.  Not to be confused with the "Oh Shit" wave.  Is this a dying bit of politeness, or something we're not noticing any longer?  We dive into this subject and find out that Robin not only takes issue with those that do not offer the thank you wave, but also with machines that don't say thank you.  From there we move on to yelling at defenseless AI devices, turning off our tech and not feeling guilty about it, but also how having a smart phone is almost a necessity these days.  We talk about how we miss the trucker horn arm movement, defensive driving and how Robin is a prostitute for office work.  While Robin wrestles with my philosophy on fast drivers, we really solidify our position on who is more zen and who is a little less zen, at least durning this conversation.  Can the resurgence of the thank you wave be what humanity needs to resurrect politeness?  I'm sure we won't answer that question, but it will be fun to listen to us try. 

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Today we talk about wasting time and quickly realize that we may be wasting your time.  But the concept of wasted time is going to be very different for everyone since we are the ones who decide what the definition of productive and wasted time is!  We talk about how the Dutch spend their time, apparently they have found a good balance, and I talk about the time the Mayor of Seattle came to fire me (he didn't actually show up....drunk people).    From there we move onto Robin's prowess as a handy man, we chat about how to make microwaves, aka Chef Mike,  even lazier, share life hacks for Law & Order SVU and how if you watch something on HBO, you have pretty much lived it in real life.  

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In todays show we start with the infamous drug talk.  At what age did you get the talk, who gave it to you and the D.A.R.E. program.  From there we make our way to head shops and how I apparently use outdated terms e.g. head shop, and weave our way through exciting subjects like Ask Jeeves, peeing in cups, more drug stories and hospitals on acid.  We have a lot of experience with both drugs and talking, so this should be a natural right?  

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In this episode we’re talking about the skills we wished we were taught growing up and who should be responsible for passing that info down. From there we tangent to the false history we were taught, social anxiety and the importance of holding a proper conversation. Somehow we establish that Robin is the Swiss Army Knife of human beings and cover the Jurassic park movie series. See if you can follow along. 

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n this episode we're talking about why many of us have stopped listening to albums from front to back.  From there we tangent to working at music stores and all the discs; mini discs, laser discs, records & compact discs.  We also find our way to skits on Hip Hop albums, the Crayola big box and digital music platforms.   

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